• I gotta make a living somehow, and make ends meet. I accept the idea of having a retirement.

    Ted Leo: I gotta make a living somehow, and make ends meet. I accept the idea of having a retirement.
    "Ted Leo and Ben Arthur Discuss Carly Simon, Joyce Carl Oates, and the Touring Grind". Interview with Ben Arthur, logger.believermag.com. June 26, 2016.